SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA - DECEMBER 04: A view of WIRED's Science Fair during WIRED's The Big Interview 2025 at The Midway SF on December 04, 2025 in San Francisco, California. (Photo by Jon Kopaloff/Getty Images for Wired)

SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA - DECEMBER 04: A view of WIRED's Science Fair during WIRED's The Big Interview 2025 at The Midway SF on December 04, 2025 in San Francisco, California. (Photo by Jon Kopaloff/Getty Images for Wired)

SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA - DECEMBER 04: A view of WIRED's Science Fair during WIRED's The Big Interview 2025 at The Midway SF on December 04, 2025 in San Francisco, California. (Photo by Jon Kopaloff/Getty Images for Wired)

SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA - DECEMBER 04: A view of WIRED's Science Fair during WIRED's The Big Interview 2025 at The Midway SF on December 04, 2025 in San Francisco, California. (Photo by Jon Kopaloff/Getty Images for Wired)

SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA - DECEMBER 04: A view of WIRED's Science Fair during WIRED's The Big Interview 2025 at The Midway SF on December 04, 2025 in San Francisco, California. (Photo by Jon Kopaloff/Getty Images for Wired)

SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA - DECEMBER 04: A view of WIRED's Science Fair during WIRED's The Big Interview 2025 at The Midway SF on December 04, 2025 in San Francisco, California. (Photo by Jon Kopaloff/Getty Images for Wired)

SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA - DECEMBER 04: A view of WIRED's Science Fair during WIRED's The Big Interview 2025 at The Midway SF on December 04, 2025 in San Francisco, California. (Photo by Jon Kopaloff/Getty Images for Wired)

Bavaria's State Premier Markus Soeder talks to German Minister for Research, Technology and Aerospace Dorothee Baer at the start of a meeting of the leaders of the country's federal states with the German Chancellor on December 4, 2025 at the Chancellery in Berlin. (Photo by RALF HIRSCHBERGER / AFP via Getty Images)